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Future of piq, needs ACTUAL attention

by Jankovic123

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If I got beef with you (meaning LWH and ArtRanger mostly), consider the beef over, I now bear only a grudge against those who have abandoned this site to flee the (previously) dire condition of piq.

"Pixil Art" is, it seems, the sucessor to piq, at least it has managed to grow exponentially, banking on the mass exodus of the 'middle class' piq uses (middle class, being users ranks 100-300, not too small, but also not exactly 'acclaimed').

Get this straight: Pixil art would not exist without the failing state of piq in early 2016, which saw the loss of many members of the site. I mean, Pixil Art is a shitty knockoff of piq, that replaced it the second it seemed that this site died. A great percentage of Pixel Art users are former piqers.

As it stands now, Pixil Art is bigger than piq, by nearly 3 times the size I estimate, and has grow so through many features of the relatively new site (many stolen from piq, such as the PoTD, and contest features).

And! How? How, has the site grown so much, in such a small space of time. The more users you have, the more you get... Well that, and the consistent attention from a competent team, of likely 10 times the size of piq.

Don't get me wrong, Pixil Art is dogshit. The interface is ugly, and the drawing tool, while allowing to change size of canvas, is actually harder and less versatile than piq's editor.

So besides the site missing a fe fundamental features, such as different cansas sizes, featured piqs and of course better ranking/moderating system, PIQ IS BETTER THAN PIXIL ART.

Now, I don't blame Pixil Art for this, but I blame piq. WHERE ARE THE ADMIN's and I think its great that they have returned, and their plans sound very promising, but I am disappointed by the lack of updates thusfar OR even the lack of information/updates given to us by them over the past month or so, besides a single fucking news article.

If they don't have interest in continuing the site, they should at least establish a sustainable future for the site. Get some more developers... are you saying that computer programming, one of the fastest rising proffesions in the world as of now, doesn't have a few extra employees you could hire?

Why not appoint some new mods, don't get me wrong I love the old ones, but besides Furry, the others are seldom seen.

And the technical issues of piq? Why do they still exist, downtimes have returned, if you haven't noticed, and every few months, a period of month-long disrepair hits the site, rendering it unusable. WHY IS THE FORUM still broken?

Chill out for a second, how about we fix the fucking fundamentals, before we focus on features which could be used to overtake, Pixil Art (which is a doable task, because piq is far more accessible).

Consider this shit for a second: this site has the potential to replace Pixil Art as the primary pixel art site, but only if the administrators, pull the finger out, and put the effort in. Add new features, I don't give a shit, make it work! Thats what I care about.

This site is actually more popular than Pixil Art, according to searches (I presume), but the constant technical issues, and stagnant community cause the community's growth to be stunted.

And WHY THE FUCK is there still an issue with activating accounts, every day I get people messaging me 'how do I activate my account', please explain, don't you guys have some kind of experience in development? Of course you do, and you fuckers have the potential to program the shit out of piq, so that it annihilates its painfully mediocre competition.

Fix the site. Get some new features. Expand the development team maybe? Get on the fucking case, before Pixil Art grows to large to be overtaken.

And, to get sentimental on you, can I just say, this site has some history. Its been around for NEARLY a decade. There has been some insane pixel art posted on this site, likely not to be matched by any other site (except perhaps Pixel Joint, but that site is far more professional oriented). Some mad shit went down on the site, and thousands of people have had memories of this site as their fist pixel art experience.

I remember 4 years ago, when Ryph was the shit, and how many poeple that were around then, are still around now! Thats what I call loyalty, you think any of these cunts on Pixil Art, have that, fuck no.

If anybody leaves piq for Pixil Art, don't mourn their loss, condemn those sellouts, tell them to gtfo, don't give them simpathy, too many times we have responses such as "No, don't leave :(", when in reality it should be "Get lost, you aren;t welcome in this community any more." Hell if I leave this site, tell me to fuck off, I know some of you would love that (but I aint leaving no time soon).

So yeah, post this on Tom's page maybe? The admins, I mean I love those guys, but if they don't want to work on the site can they at least ensure it has a sustainable future.

Thats that.



comments

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There's nothing there. sorry...
by lunageek520, 15 June 2017 14:46
give him a second to write in the desc. jesus
by Jo-Jo, 15 June 2017 14:52
OH...
I hate when i'm here right as it's uploaded...
It always causes confusion.
Sorry.
by lunageek520, 15 June 2017 14:56
Please head to this link and tell me if I have a problem.http://piq.codeus.net/picture/427046/woah
by lunageek520, 15 June 2017 14:58
[this comment was deleted by Kairi Lon]
by Kairi Lon, 15 June 2017 15:00
Luna, I dont see how this could be related to this piq or the previous comments on this piq. It just seems like you are begging for attention if you do things like that. Try not to do it too much :P
by Kairi Lon, 15 June 2017 15:02
Guys how about you read the post instead of talking about whatever this is^^
by Jankovic123, 15 June 2017 15:04
Janko, we couldnt read the post since it wasnt posted yet.
by Kairi Lon, 15 June 2017 15:06
yeah, you do, you try to put yourself in conversations that have absolutely nothing to do with you and say something totally unrelated to the topic in order to make yourself feel valid or needed.
maybe its because you're having family problems and you're feeling left out or ignored, maybe its a love interest doing the same, filling it with garbage about gas masks, weapons and useless knowledge that no one really needs to know, unless they're in history class will not fill that void.
please, do something else with your life other than being a complete nuisance on the internet, the internet does not care if you're lonely, the internet does not care if you're sad, the internet cares about whatever news or interesting at the time, not a twelve year old telling you some shit about ww2.
by Jo-Jo, 15 June 2017 15:06
yeah, im pretty sure the admins are going to be abandoning this site fairly soon
by Jo-Jo, 15 June 2017 15:09
I'm just gonna stay out of this...
At least, i'll try...
by lunageek520, 15 June 2017 15:11
im not even gonna start an argument with you ive said my peace
by Jo-Jo, 15 June 2017 15:12
Im in no rush to see changes in this site. I dont expect it either. Ive dealt with this site for years so it wouldnt come as a surprise to me if they didnt continue with their work on the site. If they do, they do. They dont, they dont. I really hope that they do but if it takes them a couple years to get anything done then I dont mind the wait. Im just enjoying the site while its here.
by Kairi Lon, 15 June 2017 15:14
^^^
by Jo-Jo, 15 June 2017 15:19
Jojo, who was that first reply aimed at.

And as i've said, if they dont work on it, they could sell it to another development team or something.
by Jankovic123, 15 June 2017 15:22
also Luna alone, I mean apparently, she told me she has mild autism, so I would tone down the hate a bit, I mean...
by Jankovic123, 15 June 2017 15:23
The longer the site goes untouched, the more time Pixil Art will have to grow, making the gap between the sites greater, and preventing piq from growing bigger in the long term.
by Jankovic123, 15 June 2017 15:24
How many times do I have to say it, I'm a guy!
It's still funny though. Why does everyone assume I'm female?
by lunageek520, 15 June 2017 15:26
luna is a female name, thats why.
by Jankovic123, 15 June 2017 15:31
I actually think they should fix the site soon, otherwise those people joining now (like me) wont lose interest.
by $AiNt, 15 June 2017 15:33
My name is supposed to be a mixture of the words lunatic and geek. I can see the confusion though.
by lunageek520, 15 June 2017 15:34
are they going to update the site?
by sAiNt, 15 June 2017 17:08
[this comment was deleted by The 8-Spriter ]
by The 8-Spriter , 15 June 2017 17:14
i love u
by hahasketchy, 15 June 2017 19:23
btw about the activating of the account, ive been on this site for a long ass time on another acc, but because i couldnt activate my account i had to make a new one. fuckery dickery shit. fix it.
by rathead, 15 June 2017 19:24
i know right, but somehow bots get pass the activation, but acutal users get fucked over by it, Alright,
by Jankovic123, 15 June 2017 19:48
( id just like to note that I haven't left piq, I just no longer have a working computer to draw with, I don't have any tablets to use, even tho I never have anyway. )
by rosefirefly, 15 June 2017 20:03
I know, I mean people migrating to Pixil.
by Jankovic123, 15 June 2017 20:06
I 99% agree. The 1% I don't understand is where you say Pixil is 3x bigger than piq, then later say that piq is more popular. What did you mean by bigger? :3
by BananaExtract, 15 June 2017 20:31
pixil has more users/active community, less results popularity on google.
by Jankovic123, 15 June 2017 20:33
Ahh, yes, I get what you mean. If I ever search up something with the query "pixel art" in the images section (of Google), I'd find a large number of images from piq, as opposed to from Pixil Art. In fact, I can't recall even seeing one image from Pixil.
by BananaExtract, 15 June 2017 20:53
it was aimed at luna, he said he has asperger's as a type of autism, he uses it to get treated less harshly on the internet.

but it really just pisses me off even more because he's using asperger's to get pity-points for him being "random" or bursting out random information as a part of his autism even though he has plenty of time to re-think it at any given moment.

not only that, but asperger's does not do that to the brain, my brother has it and he doesn't spout just useless shit because "why not", he /is/ obsessed with media and movies in general, but he explains why he is and he doesn't force it on other people, he'll say things like "i just saw this movie" or "have you seen this one?" to start an interesting and meaningful conversation, not just being that annoying creepy asshole at work going around "did you know that the movie pulp-fiction was actually about this" and then just walks away leaving the conversation with no context as to why.
by Jo-Jo, 15 June 2017 20:57
yeah, maybe he doesnt have much self awarness, attributed to aspergers, but yeah, I can see it getting annoying, especially regarding how random they get.


hes kinda young too, so just ignore him really, he cant help it. Dont lose your cool over him.
by Jankovic123, 15 June 2017 21:00
i'm trying but he's treating people with asperger's as if they're retarded and it's really upsetting to me
by Jo-Jo, 15 June 2017 21:02
maybe his is low functioning for him?
by Jankovic123, 15 June 2017 21:03
OK, First off, I'm not trying to annoy anybody, it just seems to happen. Second, I am not trying to get pity from anybody, I just like talking to people, and especially talking about stuff I happen to know a lot about.
And finally, pretty sure it's high functioning, could be wrong though.
by lunageek520, 15 June 2017 21:07
we know you arent trying to annoy, but have some awareness. You posted the history of the Ak47 on somebodies piq for NoO reason.

have some awareness

tone it down.

chill out,
by Jankovic123, 15 June 2017 21:09
I am disappointed at the fact that I have considered moving to pixilart, I honestly hope the devs actually hurry up, pixilart is rapidly updating, as a way (in my opinion) to draw more people in from the "lost cause that is piq". Sorry for blabbering, I just totally agree with this
by DanTreeBow, 15 June 2017 21:12
i've never once in my entire life seen or heard of a person's aspergers causing them to be more slow entirely.

aspergers has caused people to be narcissistic, have a harsh view of the world, although it does cause them to slower than most on something they don't find interesting or useful, when it's something that they do like, they're nearly geniuses on that topic, most of them are actually.

because of this, i think luna just wanted to say that they have a type of autism to get away with doing this type of shit, but when someone asked what kind of autism, he took his mom's tablet looked up a type of autism that doesn't make you "actually" retarded and just stuck with it without actually taking time to research it.

he acts super "quite" or "nice" which is what threw me off, a lot of people with aspergers tend to be assholes in some way, and they usually don't give a fuck about whatever the fuck you do or say if they think you're a cunt, you're a cunt, simple as that.
by Jo-Jo, 15 June 2017 21:12
Yeah...
I don't know why I did the whole AK thing. That was odd.
by lunageek520, 15 June 2017 21:26
you know you're kind of like donny from the big lebowski
im just gonna call you that from here on
by Jo-Jo, 15 June 2017 21:27
I've never seen that movie, so I don't get it.
by lunageek520, 15 June 2017 21:31
some guy who always talks, everybody tells him to stfu
by Jankovic123, 15 June 2017 21:32
Ah.
by lunageek520, 15 June 2017 21:34
honestly i dont even want them to start working on new features at this point just fix the site, add some anti-bot measures, just... something

forums have been down for years and i feel like that was also part of the reason why this population stared to dwindle, i think a lot of people here are here not only for the art program (which is way better than pixilart's program) but also the community

i've said this before but i feel like what we need most is just more communication with the admins and the users, as furry said the mods don't know much so they can't tell us much about what is going on with development. literally half the time we just don't know what's going on with the site or how long it's going to be broken(that whole piq glitch or whatever you want to call it is a good example)

i understand that the admins are older now and are busier but really is it that hard to communicate with us?
by creeperslayer098, 15 June 2017 21:56
exactly what I said, but I think we need to progress a bit, I think the fundamentals are...well fundamental, but new features will reinvigorate the people here currently

Yes the forums are important, and yes the editor here is far superior to pixil.


What I dont get is even if the admins lost interest in the projects, dont they feel at least slightly invested in such a huge project, how could they just drop it, dont they feel some sort of responsibility, or potential for cash?
by Jankovic123, 15 June 2017 22:05
yeah true
by creeperslayer098, 15 June 2017 22:21
Hello! I saw someone post this drawing on Pixilart, and so I decided to come here and respond to it. I'm @Fleja2003 from Pixilart, and I understand your loyalty to this site, as I can relate and would probably do the same for Pixilart. However, I do have some complaints. Number #1: You question the loyalty users have to Pixilart, and say that there is no retention. This is false as many users such as myself have been on that site for maybe 2 years now.

The drawing application itself over there, at this current moment, I would say is better than the one here: just have a lookhttp://prntscr.com/fkjcz1 . You have layers, custom canvases, layer move tool, line tool, onion skinshttp://prntscr.com/fkjdcm, and many many more. I know that this site has those things too - or at least most of them, but I'm just saying: please don't underrate what the devs there bring to the table.

Another complaint I have is that you call people that left and came to Pixilart, sellouts. Now I personally have a lot of friends on that site that came from here, such as Slinky, and AoiUchida, but they didn't leave because they were being a sellout - they left because the drawing application over here was dying and there wasn't much to look forward to at that time, and so - they moved out of a burning building before it collapsed on them.

Lastly, no one on Pixilart hardly talks shit about Piq, and you're wrong if you think Pixilart became big because of the fall of Piq. If you go to analytics you'll see that Pixilart began to grow tremendously around December of last year - and spiked in the summer because of obvious reasons of most people being out of school.

This is all I have to say on this matter, if you have any questions - you can reach me herehttps://www.pixilart.com/fleja2003

Good day
by Fleja2003, 16 June 2017 15:34
yeah..... no. they are sellouts, because they abandon this community, leaving their friends for their own personal gain.

besides the ability to use a larger scale, the PixilArt editor is FAR inferior. Half the features, and even less accessibility.

I actually never questioned the loyalty of PixilArt users, but the site was created as piq hit a slump (clearly) intentionally, so its an extension of this site, but who the fuck knows.
by Jankovic123, 16 June 2017 15:40
and 2 years is not a long time at all, as Ive said there are users here who are 8+ years on the site, some from '09, still uploading daily.


"and spiked in the summer because of obvious reasons of most people being out of school. " summer 2016 saw piq go offline for 3 months..
by Jankovic123, 16 June 2017 15:42
Pixil Art saw a boost in users exactly while the piq site was down for a couple of months lol!

and please dont advertised.

by RE_SPEK_WOK, 16 June 2017 15:43
and finally, I never talked smack about pixil I actually dedicated this post to bashing piq's mods.


and the burning building analogy doesnt work whatsoever.... Because the site wasnt burning and nobody was 'at threat' of anything, as you alluded. It just sounds fucking dumb.
by Jankovic123, 16 June 2017 15:45
you named the features of the drawing tool of pixil art....

all of those features are available here -_-

";ayers, custom canvases, layer move tool, line tool, onion skins"

literally all of those... we have here (I mean the design of piq's beta was essentially stolen by the Pixil art creators.
by Jankovic123, 16 June 2017 15:48
Piq's editor is far superior.

More versatile, and has all the same features.

I only wish you could manually select canvas dimentions for both x and y values.

On pixil art, they lack such things as isometric tools, dithering tools ect ect. Onion skin is more versetile on piq too, becuase you can change opacity values I think.




Also, Pixil Art only exists because of the incredibly long 2016 downtimes of piq.
by fastmannered, 16 June 2017 15:52
The analogy was meant to metaphorically represent a structurally unstable website.

I don't think it's about abandoning friends either. Some people leave Pixilart too. I don't call it abandoning though - there are other ways to reach out to someone besides just remaining in a single spot. exchange your emails, or discord etc.

This isnt really my argument, and you could really only get the personal reason from them, but many who came to Pixilart don't hate it, and you're severely underrating it which is what bothered me [as well as calling people who moved on *sellouts*]. As far as tools go - they are about the same. As far as design - I like Pixilart better.

Maybe Pixilart did benefit somewhat from Piq devs leaving. But from what I can see - and Ive been on that site for awhile, its not *that* many people from Piq. I recall maybe 40 people in total coming from piq - and Pixilart gets about 30+ new users a day so you do the math.
by Fleja2003, 16 June 2017 15:53
The website posed no threat to however, the analogy implied time was running out, by which most people need to leave to avoid something.

Leaving the site to go to another is fine, but doing so and leaving the community forever, is literally the act of compromising integrity.

In the downtime of piq, all searches for 'pixil art' that would have gone to piq, instead redirrected to Pixil Art. This means any users that would have joined piq, during late 2016, instead joined Pixil Art, due to lack of option.

So the number of people joining due to piq greatly exceeds the 100s.

Using this knowledge, we can figure out that in that period pixil art was able to overtake piq (due to its downtime) providing the basis for its growth.

So the site's growth is DIRECTLY linked to piq's downtime, and people leaving piq, to pixil art dont even account for a fraction of people joining pixil art (unwittingly) due to Piq's downtime.

by Jankovic123, 16 June 2017 16:02
also why did you make an account here on piq? To advertise you pixil art account? I recommend you remove the post with the links, because automated systems can crack down on links.
by Jankovic123, 16 June 2017 16:03
nvm just realised you are The Pixel Pencil XD!
by Jankovic123, 16 June 2017 16:05
I made an account here, because as I said before: someone told me about this posthttp://prntscr.com/fkk0kn . And PS: Slinky, is "The Pixel Pencil".
by Fleja2003, 16 June 2017 16:21
yeah right, why did they tell you about this post? None of it was directed at Pixil Art.
by Jankovic123, 16 June 2017 16:26
and regarding that post Slinky left (Pixel Pencil, not exaclty being a loved member of the site), yes the attitude of the people has fuck all to do with why the site sucks, its the fact that is barely functions consistently.
by Jankovic123, 16 June 2017 16:28
This post had nothing to do with Pixilart eh? -_-http://prntscr.com/fkk8av
by Fleja2003, 16 June 2017 16:35
not to mention piq's drawing tool is pretty trash compared to pixelart
by xdmemenoodles, 16 June 2017 16:35
um hello there somebodies alt account, put the app is the same as Pixil Arts (actually there are 2 variants on piq), beta being better than Pixil Art.
by Jankovic123, 16 June 2017 16:37
No hate directed at the site, and it seems to be quite upset about my post, did I hit a nerve?

I stated the fact that piq is superior (in design to pixil art), but nowhere did I state that I dislike the site itself.

I dislike people who leave piq to PA (which is why Pencil got so offended, and decided to insight this little attack with you and your or his alt account).
by Jankovic123, 16 June 2017 16:39
No point in arguing with a defeated idiot. I take full credit for this - not Slinky or Pixel Pencil as you know him. Unlike me, he stays a lot more passive.
by Fleja2003, 16 June 2017 16:45
You are correct, there is not point in arguing with a defeated idiot, therefor I will cease to do so.

I mean if anything, its the one who makes alt accounts to prove his objectively incorrect point who is the loser.

Now fuck off back home to your piq ripoff, and enjoy making whatever the fuck people make there, and hang out with all of the other former piq users.
by Jankovic123, 16 June 2017 16:49
Seems to me that Fleja lost here considering he/shes making alt accounts now XDDDD
by fastmannered, 16 June 2017 16:50
Seems to me that we've won boys, wrap it up, move on. *hi fives Jankovic*
by sAiNt, 16 June 2017 16:52
rip Fleja
by Jankovic123, 16 June 2017 16:52
but seriously it doesnt surprise me that these Pixil Art users are so annoyed at this site, considering its getting updated, and it poses a threat to the unsustainable growth of Pixil.


Which is certainly not 30 users daily XD, that stat was completely fabricated.
by sAiNt, 16 June 2017 16:56
can u pls answer me
by xdmemenoodles, 16 June 2017 16:56
Of course it was a lie, they are so desperate they make up stats, make alts, and screenshot every little thing they say to try to seem legitimate, it seems have a chip on their shoulder.
by Jankovic123, 16 June 2017 16:57
pls
by xdmemenoodles, 16 June 2017 16:58
answer what Fleja's?
by Jankovic123, 16 June 2017 16:59
compare the drawing tools
by xdmemenoodles, 16 June 2017 17:00
compare how, you still havent asked an actual question.
by sAiNt, 16 June 2017 17:01
how would u compare the drawing tools?
by xdmemenoodles, 16 June 2017 17:02
The tools are the same, consist of all of the same features, there is objectively no difference.
by Jankovic123, 16 June 2017 17:02
wait breakfast
by xdmemenoodles, 16 June 2017 17:02
I suppose piq's looks better, and is more flexible, considering you can just move around the bars
by Jankovic123, 16 June 2017 17:03
if you have read the conversation you should know they are the same.


Also what does 'wait breakfast' mean?
by sAiNt, 16 June 2017 17:04
I do not wish to flare up any arguments, however, I must ask a vital question; why are you getting this salty over nothing?
Really, if you did respect this site, you'd have to appreciate the artists' decisions to migrate to and from Pixil Art, for a fact, I am on both.
by Kuo, 16 June 2017 17:08
We do respect the decision to change site, we dont respect doing so, just because they feel like the other site is bigger, so they can get more followers there than here.
by Jankovic123, 16 June 2017 17:10
Im going off now for a bit.
by Jankovic123, 16 June 2017 17:10
You dont have to respect decision to leave. It just shows how little they cared about the people they were 'friends' with.
by sAiNt, 16 June 2017 17:11
k me too.
by sAiNt, 16 June 2017 17:11
SUP FUCKERS
by BIRDIENugget, 16 June 2017 17:11
tbh i actually dont like this sites drawing tool since it looks small :V
by xdmemenoodles, 16 June 2017 17:11
u wonder why fuck bitch janovik is salty? HE ALWAYS IS DUHHHHH
by BIRDIENugget, 16 June 2017 17:12
lol
by xdmemenoodles, 16 June 2017 17:14
lol is right
by BIRDIENugget, 16 June 2017 17:15
lol
by xdmemenoodles, 16 June 2017 17:16
Pixilart is better than Piq is many more ways than one at this point. In the past I may agree with you.

The screenshots are to show you how stupid and broken down your arguments are. it's called bringing evidence to the table. I myself do it often, but not everyone on Pixilart.

You don't realize it, but you, and a few other here through hostility and obstruction to reason, have made this site look really unattractive

Also, your use of the term "Alt account is incorrect". When someone uses that term, it is meant to represent someone who is already a part of a site, making a *second, or third, or whatever* account, when they already had one to begin with. I've never been a part of this website, so I wouldn't say I'm an alt account. I came from Pixilart and the only way I could respond to what you said, is if I made an account. And so I did - and also tested the features here before going in blindly.

Piq will never come back over Pixilart for one reason. And that's because The devs of Pixilart never abandoned the community - at least they stick to it. Piq - the devs here got lazy or just didn't care enough about this community and that's what it boils down to: You cant make a full recovery from something like that. I know it, because I made that same mistake too.

People that went to Pixilart, and Paint to post on Pixeljoint, Or Piskel - or wherever else they chose to go, they went because they moved on. They knew this wasn't working out and so they chose something different.

One thing you hold that I don't, is hate. I myself came here to express my thoughts and factors on two points [primarily] that bothered 'me' in particular. not all of Pixilart-

by Fleja2003, 16 June 2017 17:16
Really, the only main reason I don't use this site as much is because I find the PixilArt GUI less complex, therefore it's easier for me to use because I have been there longer, but I love this site in return because of the masses of exceptional artists here.
I just find it pointless when people begin ranting about both sites, seen as both of them have great communities, tools and artworks, though I do dislike PixilArt because of its tracing feature, which many use to trace anime but change things slightly to make it their characters, then name it 'art.'
by Kuo, 16 June 2017 17:17
guys im trying to draw here with a mouse wheres the line tool please
by xdmemenoodles, 16 June 2017 17:18
I don't think there is one...
by Kuo, 16 June 2017 17:19
darn gotta get my pad
by xdmemenoodles, 16 June 2017 17:20
jankvoc dont be mean to fleja
by RileyVsGaming59, 16 June 2017 17:24
is there a darken tool
by xdmemenoodles, 16 June 2017 17:29
THIS IS WHY PIXILART IS BETTER THERE IS A LINE TOOL DARKEN TOOL AND IT DOES SAVE WHEN IT CRASHES (NEVER CRASHES) IT DIDNT EVEN SAVE WTF
by xdmemenoodles, 16 June 2017 17:34
line tool is shift key.
by Jankovic123, 16 June 2017 17:34
^^ and I aint reading this long winded response.

At this point all of you are all just earning me points so feel free to commenting, but no more replies will be provided.
by Jankovic123, 16 June 2017 17:36
I WAS SO GOOD IT DIDNT SAVE IM PISSED DUDE TELL THEM TO SAVE
by xdmemenoodles, 16 June 2017 17:37
HOW DO U ZOOM OUT
by xdmemenoodles, 16 June 2017 17:38
dude are you retarded, its all pretty clear. Pretending you cant operate such a basic tool. There is a guide on youtube if you legit dont have the mental capacity to figure out a site used by ages 3+
by Jankovic123, 16 June 2017 17:40
also Pixel Pencil I know its you.
by Jankovic123, 16 June 2017 17:40
why go to YOUTUBE WHEN I CAN ASK YOU
by xdmemenoodles, 16 June 2017 17:42
and please tlel them t o SAVE
by xdmemenoodles, 16 June 2017 17:42
upload and select wip.
by Jankovic123, 16 June 2017 17:45
no but it suddenly CRASHED
by xdmemenoodles, 16 June 2017 17:45
Must be your internet, ive never had it crash on me.
by Jankovic123, 16 June 2017 17:46
pretending the site is broken, isnt gonna prove your point....
by Jankovic123, 16 June 2017 17:46
it said adobe flash CRASH THO not the interent
by xdmemenoodles, 16 June 2017 17:47
send screenshot.

pretending is broken is just kind of sad, because it dont even run on adobe you fuckwit HAHAHA
by Jankovic123, 16 June 2017 17:48
Piq editor doesnt run on adobe, you just proved that you are lying sir.
by sAiNt, 16 June 2017 17:49
WHAT
by xdmemenoodles, 16 June 2017 17:50
ILL PROVE IT when it CRASHES AGAIN
by xdmemenoodles, 16 June 2017 17:50
OH ITS FLASH
by xdmemenoodles, 16 June 2017 17:51
doesnt run on flash either you dumb fuckwit HAAHAHAHA
by Jankovic123, 16 June 2017 17:51
no IT DID ILL SHOW U A SCREEN SHOT WHEN IT FREEZES AND CRAHES
by xdmemenoodles, 16 June 2017 17:52
liar liar ahahahahahahahhaha
by sAiNt, 16 June 2017 17:52
no u WILL SEE AND U WILL SAY SORRY
by xdmemenoodles, 16 June 2017 17:54
God kid you are so thick... Go back to Pixil Art.
by Jankovic123, 16 June 2017 17:54
Sorry
by The 8-Spriter , 16 June 2017 17:54
sorry about what?
by Jankovic123, 16 June 2017 17:55
no i will use BOTH NOW im starting to like it
by xdmemenoodles, 16 June 2017 17:55
IT LOOKED LIKE A PUZZLE TOO
by xdmemenoodles, 16 June 2017 17:55
What the fuck are you on about?
by Jankovic123, 16 June 2017 17:56
you arent very coherent you know.
by Jankovic123, 16 June 2017 17:56
Memenoodles said I would be sorry, and I am, I'm sorry for him
by The 8-Spriter , 16 June 2017 17:56
WHEN IT CRASHED IT SHOWED A PUZZLE
by xdmemenoodles, 16 June 2017 17:57
I've been practicing that one just for this day
by The 8-Spriter , 16 June 2017 17:57
I hate to say i told you so Jank, but this is exactly what i predicted was going to happen when i expressed skepticism about the devs. Ive tried my very hardest to remain optimistic about what there doing but i think its safe to say at this point they have minimal to no effort to maintain the site and have just been bumping with meaningless updates as scarcely as they can to not lose what sliver of the community is left. Pixilart sucks dick, the drawing tool is trash and the way the site is laid out is a lot less streamlined then piq, that being said at this point unless the devs thoroughly surprise me and actually do even ONE thing they've promised ill just be resuming my hiatus on both websites.
by Lumpkins, 16 June 2017 17:57
PLS STOP CRASH I HAVE A WINDOWS 10
by xdmemenoodles, 16 June 2017 17:58
Its painfully clear you are lying, because it doesnt run on flash or adobe... Why are you lying.




by Jankovic123, 16 June 2017 17:59
LOOK EVEN THO I HAVE GLASSES I SWEAR I SAW A PUZZLE FIRST TIME I DREW
by xdmemenoodles, 16 June 2017 18:00
WAIT GTG LETS TALK LATER I GOTTA GO LAST DAY OF SCHOOL AM TURNING 8TH GRADE
by xdmemenoodles, 16 June 2017 18:01
Holy fuck lumpkins, where the fuck have you been. And yeah, you said it.

I mean on one hand the dickhead admins are raping this site, and meanwhile, the dickhead pixil art is raping it up the other whole.

The second there is an update, we will see people join, and return, we will see more users, hell even when they allude to an update, the user count goes up by 50%.

Also, mind helping me out with this dickhead (xdmemenoodles) hes Pixil Pencil's alt.
by Jankovic123, 16 June 2017 18:02
I have so little effort to spare for piq at this point, its relationship has degraded from one akin to a old friend to a relative on life support who hasnt done a thing but drool and belch for 12 years, im surprised i even mustered enough enthusiasm to read through a comment section and chime in, and thats about all your getting from me for now.
by Lumpkins, 16 June 2017 18:05
well thanls for the 'cock-teast', also where u been on FB?
by Jankovic123, 16 June 2017 18:09
My move has turned into a series of moves that are looking to result in me either moving to Texas or Tennessee, neither of which im happy about and the reason why its those places is a bit long winded but thats while i have and will be particularly busy for the next little bit.
by Lumpkins, 16 June 2017 18:12
I mean, at least your in the US, but who knows Ive never been in those states, but anything is better than Manchester.

I hope you return permanently after your moves. By the way, where has grog fucked off to as well. Same time as you. He moving in with you too ;P
by Jankovic123, 16 June 2017 18:15
TheXdMemenoodles is someone from Pixilart, but its not Slinky, or Pixel Pencil as he was known here. Slinky towers over your arrogant ass, and is a far better artist than you ever will behttp://prntscr.com/fklfbc . A good mate too loved by everyone here - thats what you missed out on. He gets nearly quadruple the amount of likes and views you get, so seriously - stop talking shit
by Fleja2003, 16 June 2017 18:17
You seem upset, I recommend you calm down, it seems your blood pressure is rising. You health is at risk, I recommend you calm down.

Okay, hes a better artist than me? Thats cool, beleive it or not Im actually not an aspiring professional pixel artist, I do it recreationally, its fun for me.

Also, I consider myself to be more musical than visual artist, so unless any of you can play guitar better than me I wont feel bad
by Jankovic123, 16 June 2017 18:23
I dunno, maybe you think you are the next pixel picaso, but lets face it you arent, and actually Pixel has been trying to talk to me on my piq, but I aint talking to that two face snake motherfucker, I got better shit to do.
by Jankovic123, 16 June 2017 18:30
you know somebody has lost when they just start hurling personal insults .
by sAiNt, 16 June 2017 18:40
I wonder why hes still here,. I just pity him really.
by Jankovic123, 16 June 2017 18:45
I'd like my own say in this, i believe the pixilart drawing tool is better than the one here, at this current point in time. I've made my own art here and i've used both drawing tools on this website, the original and beta, and the only two things that pixilart really needs are the bucket dither and the gradient fill. Also, i highly agree with fleja, and dont think im siding on a close friend b/c fleja and i fight.We fight a lot. I honestly think this entire picture was stupid, and you could've gone perfectly fine w/o it. I'm not typing out everything fleja already said again, so just listen to him
by tako, 16 June 2017 19:03
im not gonna come out and say the pixilart tool is better or worse than piq, they have the same functions and do the same things. but there's nothing wrong with people leaving a site they feel is unfit to stay in, whether its because the site is dying or the community is toxic or the moderators are poorly chosen. you cant just call someone a fucking traitor for leaving, its their choice. i dont know if youre expecting people to come back or whatever after they leave, or if youre expecting the piq playerbase to expand, but its not going to happen if people come on piq and see people like you being toxic in the community. your points youve brought up in arguments really contradict themselves- you said that you weren't trying to insult pixilart, but explicitly stated pixilart was dogshit and so was the drawing app. you said that this rant wasn't focusing on pixilart despite the majority of your points focusing on pixilart. honestly, theres no such thing as a better or worse site especially if they focus on the same thing. some sites do it differently. maybe people like pixilart better because it's more geared towards beginners, maybe people like piq because its more advanced. you can't hate people for having a preference. there really was never a problem to begin with here either, the pixilart playerbase just happens to expand at the same time piq's decreases, and a few users from here leave for pixilart. so what? now pixilart is stealing your players, burning the town, pillaging and raping the houses and women? big deal. there was never a reason to kick up a big shitstorm about something so trivial. i'd understand if you were ranting about the piq devs or the community or piq itself, but here's the thing.

just because piq is losing players or the devs have gone to shit doesn't mean that it's another site's fault.

visiting your profile you seem to stir up a lot of drama(plus you directly comment on and publicize other people's drama) so who's to say this isnt some big spiel for attention or whatever.

i for one think we should just stop arguing, this doesnt need to turn into an alleged "war" between sites or anything. slow ya roll
by brd, 16 June 2017 19:17
the drawing tool is factually the same. Im not sure how you can even have a differing opinion.

Fleja is a total moron, and by extension you are too. I mean Im not gullible enough to beleive that you two arent ganging up just do defend your precious pixil art.

God you're so fucking idiotic.
by Jankovic123, 16 June 2017 19:18
And brd, you are the ones here, so if you want a war, you got one, otherwise, get the fuck off. I mean dont you see how it works.
by Jankovic123, 16 June 2017 19:19
"the drawing tool is factually the same. Im not sure how you can even have a differing opinion."

you said yourself that the drawing tool in pixilart is dogshit, which is a different opinion.

if i had a nickel for every time you contradicted yourself id have enough to fill a bag and beat some fucking sense into you with it.
by brd, 16 June 2017 19:19
You're the total moron here.
by tako, 16 June 2017 19:21
wasnt a response to you. They have the same features, but the layout and visual design is different.

Give me another place where I've contradicted myself, because so far you have 0.
by Jankovic123, 16 June 2017 19:21
They are factually the same in the sense that they have the same features, so its none debatable.
by Jankovic123, 16 June 2017 19:22
jankovic we arent here to "start a war" or anything, you insulted our site and we defend it. we aren't trying to troll or anything( at least that wasn't the group intention) but we're here to correct some facts.
by brd, 16 June 2017 19:22
Hey fuckwit, if you read my thing, I never insulted the admins of piq, not Pixil art.

And what exactly are you 'defending' it from? Huh? Am I a threat to it? No, fuck off, the reason you are here, is because I hurt your crappy feelings, and you are all flocking over in hordes (earning me points thanks btw), and HAVE CORRECTED NOT A SINGLE FACT.

Again you people are total hypocrites, and seriously need to look at what your saying.

All you have are opinions, opinions opinions, I have not seen a single factual error in the rant, and whats worse, you people have made some factual errors, such as fleija saying piq doesnt have features of pixil art.
by Jankovic123, 16 June 2017 19:26
lol I aint seen any of you Pixel art cunts "correct" anything, besides whine incessantly.
by fastmannered, 16 June 2017 19:27
well to be fair all you have stated are opinions as well. and if someone insulted your site(like some people did above) would you defend it? yeah, probably. lets not turn this into a flame war, lets try and keep it civil alright? you're not helping by bursting a gasket over here. again, i dont think youve stated a single fact about pixilart(because your accusations about the devs seem to be right) so you can't be harsh on us for having opinions as well. i don't think i have seen anyone here whining either, we're trying to have a somewhat civil debate here
by brd, 16 June 2017 19:33
salty cnt am i right?
by LeSaltyDanish, 16 June 2017 19:38
well your user is "lesaltydanish"
by brd, 16 June 2017 19:42
no, I wouldnt make a pixil art account to defend piq, because Im not some sad loser who takes internet conversations personally.

I have corrected flejiah 3 different times:

He stated piq didnt have 4-5 features, I told him it did.

He said that pixil art gained users because of summer vacation, I proved it was because piq was down at the time

He said pixil art gained a ridiculous number of users daily, I corrected him.

And Im not interested in a debate, Im interested in you dickheads getting off this site, because we dont want to stain piq with Pixil art's cancerous users.
by Jankovic123, 16 June 2017 19:43
it's true piq and pixilart's applications have pretty much the same features. it's just that one has a more simplistic userface and the other one has a more streamlined yet complicated one.

fleja used actual statistics to back up the fact that pixilart gained users because of summer vacation(and it's true, i and many others joined around the summer of 2016) as well as winter. you simply stated that piq also went offline during summer for 3 months- that doesn't mean that pixilart's userbase expanded JUST because piq went offline. if that isnt a strawman argument i dont know what is.

pixilart does gain a lot of users daily. maybe not 30+, but it certain does get at its peak probably around 10(or more) users a day. not all of them are active but it's quite a bit.

if you weren't interested in a debate you probably shouldn't have blamed your sites problems on pixilart in the first place, this is the internet, you can't just go insult a site many users frequent personally and expect no repercussions. and again with calling pixilart shit. you're not going to get any users back if this is how you react to losing some users because of your devs.
by brd, 16 June 2017 19:53
Summer 2016 was when piq was down for 3 months... Piq became second search result for 'pixel art', and Pixil became the first. Hence, more people joined. Had NOTHING to do with summer vacation, especially considering, there are many european schooling systems that have vacations at totally different times.




PLEASE QUOTE WHERE I BLAMED THIS SITE PROBLEMS ON PIXIL ART QUOTE.

If you failed to provide a quote in the next hour, I will consider your ass done here.
by Jankovic123, 16 June 2017 19:58
If any of you have read the piq, it clearly doesnt anywhere blame the sites problems on pixil...

Also, that downtime thing is true, me and friends made pixil art accounts when piq was down, we've never used them since. Site's popularity at best can grow 10% due to summer vacations (not applicable globally), and 200% growth when featured first search quora.

But those are just facts, and I know pixil art users ignore those.
by RE_SPEK_WOK, 16 June 2017 20:01
i typed up a post but it disappeared for some reason so here i go typing it again:
https://prnt.sc/fkmrl9https://prnt.sc/fkmsre

1- you blaming the fact that people are leaving on pixilart. just because people are leaving doesnt mean they are sellouts or necessarily leaving to go to pixilart.

2- blaming the fact that your site is going down in activity because "pixilart dickheads are raping it up the other hole". it's not our fault people are leaving. plus, if you were a developer for this site would you want to invest time and resources into fixing the site, then be called a dickhead and lazy and unproductive by your playerbase, even though you're trying to push out patches and fixes?

also like i said, not all the accounts from summer 2016 are active anymore, but the reason the site grew was because schools were letting out around june and july- the majority of our REGISTERED(there are a lot of russian artists in the anonymous gallery) community is in north america and south america.
by brd, 16 June 2017 20:19
now i'd rather be doing other things at this point rather than carrying on this debate, so i'll leave for now

here's a cool series of gifs of someone creating a glass lanternhttp://imgur.com/gallery/UVLDn
by brd, 16 June 2017 20:21
I like those gifs.
by Lieutenant Disaster, 16 June 2017 20:34
0.0
by ahayden, 16 June 2017 20:35
0.0
by ahayden, 16 June 2017 20:35
hello fuck bitch janovik
by BIRDIENugget, 16 June 2017 21:39
what gay shit are u doing
by BIRDIENugget, 16 June 2017 21:40
lmao birdie's desperate
by Jo-Jo, 16 June 2017 22:03
programming isn't as easy as you think, not to mention the amount of money it takes to run this site alone, but I agree that they need to admins and need to communicate more
by Tiok1, 17 June 2017 00:52
brd, all of that was wrong

1. I blamed people leaving piq, on the piq admins, I said so explicitly.

2. Pixil art is raping piq, because of the admins.... fuckwit.

Russia, doesn't even have summer vacation at the time... Neither does Eastern Europe, relating the growth of pixil art to the holidays is idiotic, because it dirrectly corrilates with PIQ DOWNTIMES, and doesnt correlate with varying summer vacations. Also, how come piq doesnt grow during the holidays, rather grows during the midyear? Hm? Oh maybe because your fucking stupid and equate holidays to massive growth of a site....
by Jankovic123, 17 June 2017 09:52
Tiok1

The piq site is free to develop, the admins have states that in the news years ago. And they've been working on 1 single update for half a year now, I mean I dont know how hard web development is, but I know it aint that hard!
by Jankovic123, 17 June 2017 10:13
Nothing we can do about it with that attitude
by Tiok1, 17 June 2017 17:21
well there is nothing we can do about it anyhow, so we can have any attitude.
by Jankovic123, 17 June 2017 17:55
janovick seriously why do u act like ur such a dictator. According to how much gay shit u do each day im prety certain the fuckboy squad is worth more than u. So heres a reccomendation. Ride ur fucking panzi ass home on ur high horse (wich is ur dog) to ur gay little throne room (wich is ur bedroom) and sit ur fucking throne (wich is ur plushie chair) and cry about how nobody gives 2 shits about. Besides im starting to question if u have any friends based on ruling u act on this website. Plus i dont think piqs gonna follow up on ur bitch complaints. So...................Shut the fuck up okay? okay. :)
by BIRDIENugget, 19 June 2017 01:13
Please don't comment on dead pics, thanks
by The 8-Spriter , 19 June 2017 01:14
OOh Birdie, is getting upset! Watch out hes gonna spill every swear word hes ever learnt because he just discovered swearing 10 minutes ago.

Heres another one: Im allowed to have an opinion right? I didnt tell nobody to do anything kiddo, in fact the only one telling people here what to do is you...Making you the dictator.

So get the fuck off with your 4 subs, and your 3rd grade language, and get the fuck off the internet, until you are old enough to use it.

Okay :D.
by Jankovic123, 19 June 2017 08:44
Birdie, Im tired of you, you are the only dictator here, and Im pretty sure people give a shit about Jankovic, because he gets PoTD every time he uploads, and nobody give as shit about you besides your dickrider buddy "banana bud"....


enjoy -1 sub.
by fastmannered, 19 June 2017 08:47
HAhaha IKR get destroyed BIRDIE.
by Jankovic123, 19 June 2017 08:52

pls no 2 sense from u fuckface thx
by BIRDIENugget, 19 June 2017 19:52
just ignore this little kid fast, hes just upset about his micropenis.
by Jankovic123, 19 June 2017 21:12
Why did I ever comment agh, sorry for probably fueling the fire
by DanTreeBow, 19 June 2017 21:34
where did you comment before?
by Jankovic123, 19 June 2017 21:44
dan commented this:
I am disappointed at the fact that I have considered moving to pixilart, I honestly hope the devs actually hurry up, pixilart is rapidly updating, as a way (in my opinion) to draw more people in from the "lost cause that is piq". Sorry for blabbering, I just totally agree with this
by Jo-Jo, 19 June 2017 21:56
also i love it when birdie says "2 sense" its two cents dumbass
by Jo-Jo, 19 June 2017 21:58
AHAHA IKR I was going to correct him but I didn't want to disturb the entertainmen-- I mean conversation.
by BananaExtract, 19 June 2017 21:59
BIRDIE, good look getting past 3rd grade.
by Jankovic123, 20 June 2017 13:52
Here's my opinion on this, (Sorry I'm starting a bit late on this...) I believe piq is a pretty decent website that has its flaws. If you haven't been on PixilArt, it's absolute trash. If you try drawing, they throw you the lack of tools necessary to do so. They have a canvas setting that barely looks like your using pixels. I like it that piq gives you an area to work with pixels. PixilArt to me is just confusing to get around. Also, have fun trying to find people or a certain picture.
by TheIronworks, 20 June 2017 16:20
I know I know, but people here seem to have a problem with expressing opinion.
by Jankovic123, 20 June 2017 16:39
Wow, first time looking at "Pixilart", it makes me cringe that people would leave such a good platform and community for a quite shitty pixel art website.
by FriedBreadCritique, 20 June 2017 18:17
Some huge people here like LD and others criticised me for saying what you just said, I guess there will always be dumb fucks.
by Jankovic123, 20 June 2017 18:59
? I didn't say shit to you.
by Lieutenant Disaster, 20 June 2017 19:40
People told me that you talked shit. You didnt say it to my face, but you apparently criticised me behind my back.
by Jankovic123, 20 June 2017 20:15
I apologized to Fleja on her shoutbox because you were being aggressive as hell to her and making piq look like a group of angry bitter people.
by Lieutenant Disaster, 20 June 2017 20:18
That is called criticism. Hence you criticised me.
by Jankovic123, 20 June 2017 20:19
Did I say it wasnt?
I'm just confused as to how I'm a dumbfuck for that.
by Lieutenant Disaster, 20 June 2017 20:20
"? I didn't say shit to you."

you seemed to be baffled by my remark, I just assumed you disagreed (which you did), but now you say you don't? Well, have fun with that.

Dumbfuck for siding with people who came on the site to specifically insight hatred? And I know your buddy Flejah is so "mature", but he did slip a few insults, so I consider that hate, now I got no problem with that, but I think you are a dumb fuck for deliberately siding with those coming from other sites to bash THIS site, despite you being a longtime member of this site. To me thats fucking dumb. Issues?
by Jankovic123, 20 June 2017 20:25
gotta love how LD says that first, then when Jank says what happened, she backs out of it, pretending she didnt mean anything by it.

What is it with all of these deceitful and dishonest people???
by fastmannered, 20 June 2017 20:27
Yeah I didn't say shit to you.
I didn't criticize and of your points.
I didn't say the site didn't have a huge problem.
I didn't say at all I didn't agree with any of what you said.
Even if fleja had a totally stupid point of view, I would've still apologized to her because you were being aggressive as fuck.
She apologized and you still gave her shit and it was very immature.
That's why I fucking apologized.
by Lieutenant Disaster, 20 June 2017 20:28
God dammit, I don't want more notifications of people commenting on this post
by The 8-Spriter , 20 June 2017 20:28
defending someone does not mean you agree with every aspect of there political viewpoint jank, i would say the one who's willing to jump to conclusions and even call that "talking shit" is about as light skinned as you can get.
by Lumpkins, 20 June 2017 20:31
How about instead of you apologising on behalf of me, you let me apologise. And how agressive? Hm? A few swear words, is that some sort of attack? What are your standards for 'agressive'?

And I never said you talked shit to be, yet you show up saying:

"? I didn't say shit to you."

Again, where did I say you spoke shit to me?

Im not gonna forgive Flejah's insencere and redundant apology, apologising, for everything except for the things she actually did (which if you had read her apology, you had never seen it was mostly sarcasm I mean "I would like to apologise for trying to inquire".

So no, Im not gonna apologise to the non-apology he/she offered.

Flejah was being annoying, and very bitter, and then provided a total non-apology, and you white-night your ass, and apologise for my behaviour.

Go fuck yourself.
by Jankovic123, 20 June 2017 20:35
It was a non-apology, I personally wouldnt have considered it worthy of accepting.
by fastmannered, 20 June 2017 20:38
I'm sorry, I know I have no part in this, but we all know that you apologizing is not going to happen, even if it does happen to be a mistake of yours.

Also, is it necessary to include an insult related to "fuck" in every single one of your arguments? It doesn't really support your cause.
by BananaExtract, 20 June 2017 20:38
~Lumpkins

As far as Im concerned:

Slinky towers over your arrogant ass, and is a far better artist than you ever will behttp://prntscr.com/fklfbc . A good mate too loved by everyone here - thats what you missed out on. He gets nearly quadruple the amount of likes and views you get, so seriously - stop talking shit"

yeah, thats talking shit. Its not even me being light-skinned.

coupled with his pathetic and arrogant non-apology, means you dont really have a reason to call me unreasonable, for telling him to leave.
by Jankovic123, 20 June 2017 20:41
Banana:

So you want me to stop swearing?
by Jankovic123, 20 June 2017 20:42
Oh, no, I have no problem with you swearing, but it might help not to stuff an insult into every argument you have for yourself.
by BananaExtract, 20 June 2017 20:43
Lum (2), and as far as LD is considered, I said she criticised me, thats a fact. Where are you getting this "talking shit" from, where did I say LD was talking shit?
by Jankovic123, 20 June 2017 20:44
Yeah okay jank.
Calling everyone on a website assholes because you didn't like what people from there had to say isn't aggressive and immature.
Call it white knighting if you want, it was an apology because I thought it was necessary in my opinion.
Your piq would've been good if you didn't have to bring in another website.
All it did was cause unnecessary drama.
by Lieutenant Disaster, 20 June 2017 20:44
LD I think you have no idea what you are talking about, I had a problem once Flejah called said this:


"TheXdMemenoodles is someone from Pixilart, but its not Slinky, or Pixel Pencil as he was known here. Slinky towers over your arrogant ass, and is a far better artist than you ever will behttp://prntscr.com/fklfbc . A good mate too loved by everyone here - thats what you missed out on. He gets nearly quadruple the amount of likes and views you get, so seriously - stop talking shit"

Maybe if you read all of the conversations you could speak, but so far you are essentially exclusively white nigting.

Why am I immature, for not kissing his ass for giving me a totally fake non-apology?

And further, I didnt bring in the other site, you can thank The Pixel Pencil for linking this on Pixil Art.
by Jankovic123, 20 June 2017 20:47
Yes i dont give a flying shit about the third person bystander, im saying that trying to lump LD into that same category and say that she talked shit "behind your back" through some loose connection of apologizing to someone that you were being a cunt, rightfully so, to, and going to far as to trying to surmise THAT as "talking shit" does make your about as over-sensitive and unjustifiably petty as you can get.
by Lumpkins, 20 June 2017 20:47
I NEVER FUCKING SAID LD TALKED SHIT! I SAID SHE CRITICISED ME, WHICH SHE ADMITTED TO.

READ^^
by Jankovic123, 20 June 2017 20:49
"People told me that you talked shit. You didnt say it to my face, but you apparently criticised me behind my back."

Apparently others assumed it was talking shit and so did you otherwise you wouldn't have said so.
by Lieutenant Disaster, 20 June 2017 20:50
Some huge people here like LD and others criticised me for saying what you just said

^^ that is what I said

where is the "talking shit" there?
by Jankovic123, 20 June 2017 20:50
Your trying to equate being someone who sympathizes with someone whos been a target of your cuntiness with someone who disagrees with all of your opinions virulently and thats just retarded, not everyone gives as much of a fuck about these extremely small issues and might just apologize to someone they see being attacked weather its rightfully done or not
by Lumpkins, 20 June 2017 20:51
"People told me talked shit"........People......... again, where did I say that you talked shit hM?
by Jankovic123, 20 June 2017 20:52
I told him you talked shit, I still dont see where he said it.
by fastmannered, 20 June 2017 20:52
So great you going to call someone a white knight for defending someone outside of the situation when youve got your own groveling lackeys keeping you up to date on when anyone speaks the name jank, i think in this instance i would say theres more integrity in being the white knight
by Lumpkins, 20 June 2017 20:54
so now you've changed the topic, after you proved to misreading the whole thing.

And what I said was exactly the same thing Fried Bread, in the same way too. I got called immature for doing that.

Fried Bread same the same things I said, and I got called "immature" for that.

Lump, you have totally no clue what you are on about...
by Jankovic123, 20 June 2017 20:55
I cant read this anymore cya!
by fastmannered, 20 June 2017 20:56
Every time I point your flaws out Lumpkins YOU TOTALLY fucking change the subject, am I going to have to quench every single one of your grievances until you run out of bullshit points?

Do you know what a white night is? They only defend people because its easy and it makes them look better, not because they look better. No integrity in that.
by Jankovic123, 20 June 2017 20:59
Especially since if whoever this little no name is considered what she did "talking shit" then hes exactly as thin skinned and petty as im equating you to be and using him as evidence when your bringing up a argument is just virtue signalling using a weak minded sheep whos probably so in love with your bombastic unapologetic style of criticism he would follow you into war, this whole situation isnt complicated jank and if anything just mistaking you claiming it was talking shit and your little buddy claiming it was only makes you look shortsighted for not looking into it yourself and still citing it in your argument
by Lumpkins, 20 June 2017 20:59
Whatever. This is pointless.
The point is I was accused of being a dumbfuck for doing one simple thing.
I don't give a shit who said what.
I didn't side with anyone
I didn't fucking say someone was wrong or not.
I chose to empathize because I perceived it as aggressive and immature, even if you didn't perceive it that way.
Now I'm done.
Luke doesn't want me arguing so I'm going to stop and go relax with him.
by Lieutenant Disaster, 20 June 2017 21:00
Well Im not here to speak for fastmannered, all I was told that "LD talked shit", I didnt know what she said, I dont care what she said, and please, chill out with the thesaurus, you wont turn this into a youtube comment war where they express everything so condeludedly, they use expression as a means of distracting their opponent.

And please dont make your total face-flop attempting to argue without any context of the situation, and flip it into my fault, I cited it fairly! Im allowed to, and I even CLARIFIED I thought it was criticism? How more blunt could I have been!
by Jankovic123, 20 June 2017 21:04
If me calling you dumbfuck offended you, (an yet Im the one called thinskinned) I apologise.

I dont even know who luke is....
by Jankovic123, 20 June 2017 21:06
Luke is Lumpkins.
by Lieutenant Disaster, 20 June 2017 21:08
You assumed so much shit with no fact to back it up and threw LD into a category with all of these piq hating pixilart immigrants when all she did was apologize to someone who she only knew had been attacked by you without any context, letting the 2 things be interchangeable and deciding to berate her calling her a dumbfuck is the exact type of shit that makes you reviled on this site
by Lumpkins, 20 June 2017 21:09
Yeah I should have known, I have him added.

And is he given up too?
by Jankovic123, 20 June 2017 21:09
*has
by Jankovic123, 20 June 2017 21:11
Luke it's done.
Let's just stop.
I'm sorry, I should've listened to you in the first place and not argued.
by Lieutenant Disaster, 20 June 2017 21:11
I didn't throw her into that category....

I threw her into the category of people who criticised me for what I said...

did she not do that, answer me YES or NO.
by Jankovic123, 20 June 2017 21:12
I feel like youre just catching up to what actually happened and your points are becoming more and more sparse as you realise how retarded you came out right off the bat.
by Jankovic123, 20 June 2017 21:13
She didnt give a fuck about the pixilart vs piq debate and was just trying to reassure someone that not all of piq was as aggressively opinionated as you are, so no she did not give a damn about the original topic of this debate.
by Lumpkins, 20 June 2017 21:15
Jank please stop.
I apologized. Im leaving, and Im sorry for the trouble I caused by even trying to argue here.
You can believe what you want about us on Pixilart.
You win.
by Fleja2003, 20 June 2017 21:16
Did I say she gave a shit about the original topic of the debate...

I said she criticised me for saying it the way Fried said it. Hence my wording of the original response to fried.

Again did she or did she not criticise me for being agressive YES or NO. And dont bullshit swerve the question.

One by one I shoot down your points, is there any chance you're stubborn ass is going to admit that you might be in the wrong?
by Jankovic123, 20 June 2017 21:17
What she said had NOTHING to do with your argument here, and you still cited her as a scapegoat of people who are "against you" because you heard from someone that she had "talked shit"

fucking listen to yourself jank your trying to fight everyone when only one or two people actually give enough of a fuck about the topic at all enough to debate you about it
by Lumpkins, 20 June 2017 21:18
I criticized him on his attitude.
I'll say that and I don't deny that.
That's all I did.
He apologized for insulting me.
We're done okay?
Cool.
by Lieutenant Disaster, 20 June 2017 21:19
AND HEY, LUMP, stop calling me a dickrider for telling him about what LD said, again you dont have any context of what happened! Me and him were talking, I didnt snitch on LD, I mentioned it.

Dont quote me on dickrider, idk what you actually said, but it seems you only nitpick about the small things when your fundamental logic is flawed.
by fastmannered, 20 June 2017 21:22
Its comical to see how much Lumpkin's argument has shrivelled, now hes accusing me of calling her against me...

She was against me, even she can tell you that. Fucking hell! Lump why did you even get involved, you fucked up consitently, and now you finally get to your point, which was that you didnt like me saying that she was against me? However vague "against me is", I never used those words, thats something you are totally pulling out of your ass.



Also that last insult fell flat, Im only debating people here debating me, I aint forcing anybody to stay here.
by Jankovic123, 20 June 2017 21:25
He was just heated because he's protective.
He didn't wanna do this in the first place anyways.
Was my fault
by Lieutenant Disaster, 20 June 2017 21:29
Lump didnt want to do this? You put him up to this?
by Jankovic123, 20 June 2017 21:30
Fucking christ jank my argument still stands as exactly what it was when i started and i wanst insulting you you thin skinned little pansy boy, i never said she didnt criticized you but she criticized you on something completely unrelated to the topic at hand here and you still tried to act like she was speaking for the group defending pixilart, you were quoting Ironworks saying that piq is flawed but so is pixil art and saying LD criticized you for saying that when that wasnt the case at all and she was just rightfully criticizing your for being a cunt in general, which you yourself have agreed is a fair point. which is the same point ive been making this whole time
by Lumpkins, 20 June 2017 21:32
No.
He entered this on his own behalf.
I didn't tell him to.
by Lieutenant Disaster, 20 June 2017 21:32
Lukeeee just quit tho
You keep starting it up when it's dying
by Lieutenant Disaster, 20 June 2017 21:33
so if he didnt want to do it why did he do it?
by Jankovic123, 20 June 2017 21:34
Im done anyways trying to get a point across to you is like trying to sink a battleship with javelins and your just so self assured that your always in the right that its akin to talking to a fucking magic 8 ball just spewing the same shit over and over again
by Lumpkins, 20 June 2017 21:34
Because like I said he's protective.
I'm his girlfriend so of course he's gonna get heated.
He asked me to not get into it and I didn't listen.
by Lieutenant Disaster, 20 June 2017 21:36
I never said she criticised me on something on the topic. That is something you have fabricated.

You sound like a broken record, your only point is that I categorised her as a PA sympathiser, which I have 14 times told you I didnt, and yet you refuse to read my responses, only blindly shouting; YOU CATEGORISED HER AS ONE OF THEM!"

I didnt do that shit bro, and maybe if you hadnt jumped into the argument in such a masturbatory manor, and actually read what I said to Fried, you would have seen from the offest you were W R O N G.
by Jankovic123, 20 June 2017 21:36
Oh! Your his girlfriend. That explains a lot.
by Jankovic123, 20 June 2017 21:39
Explains what?
by Lieutenant Disaster, 20 June 2017 21:40
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by Jankovic123, 20 June 2017 21:42
what you just said, didnt make a whole lot of sense anyway.

and tell him to hurry up with his response, I gotta wrap this shit up TODAY, I got something important tomorrow.
by Jankovic123, 20 June 2017 21:43
"Here's my opinion on this, (Sorry I'm starting a bit late on this...) I believe piq is a pretty decent website that has its flaws. If you haven't been on PixilArt, it's absolute trash. If you try drawing, they throw you the lack of tools necessary to do so. They have a canvas setting that barely looks like your using pixels. I like it that piq gives you an area to work with pixels. PixilArt to me is just confusing to get around. Also, have fun trying to find people or a certain picture."


"
Some huge people here like LD and others criticised me for saying what you just said, I guess there will always be dumb fucks."

You were lumping her in with the others you can claim you weren't all you want because you didnt EXPLICITLY fucking say it but i wouldnt be making th point without obvious evidence quoting you acting like she disagreed with that opinion and acting like it was even worse because shes a "huge" person on piq when what she did had nothing to do with that opinion and you cited her for no fucking reason
by Lumpkins, 20 June 2017 21:43
You just said you are done what happenedddddd
You gotta stop man
I made my point.
No more. This is just unimportant
by Lieutenant Disaster, 20 June 2017 21:46
Jank, not being sarcastic, do you ever get tired of replying to comments????
Or do you like doing this?

I wouldn't be able to do it, it's too tiring.
by Jo-Jo, 20 June 2017 21:48
The very reason LD called me immature was for saying that Pixil Art was shit to Flejiah, THINK FOR A SECOND!

I was called immature after calling Pixil Art shit.

Hence LD criticised me for saying what Fried Bread did.

Now while you try to find a way to weasel out another response, by bending my fundamental logic, can I give you a fact?

The fact is that she will tell you that she called me immature for being a douche to the people of PA. Fried was being a douche to the people of PA, saying the same thing I did.

Now if you want to put words in my mouth, thats your loss, it only really reveals that your initial point was too weak. I mean, its cool I totally get why your here, big shot lumpkins, is the voice of reason, wants to put down the bully using swear words and what not.

And PLEASE spare me the bullshit, your original response was so longwinded and condeluded, Im not gonna give you the satisfaction of pretenind that that was the only issue you had, No, you came here with some vague bullshit about me not smearing people with the same brush, but what really happened is I smeared the right person with the right brush, I said LD criticised me for being agressive, after Fried posted an agressive mark.

How about you swallow your pride, and admit you are wrong?
by Jankovic123, 20 June 2017 21:53
*pretending
by Jankovic123, 20 June 2017 21:54
*remark
by Jankovic123, 20 June 2017 21:55
Ive put you in your place before but if i learned anything from that its that your just not worth the pain in the ass. good luck calling me masturbatory when your literally sitting here debating kids because of how much you self admittedly love the hate, every point i made is entirely sound and as i said the reason why your so reviled on this site but your not worth the fucking long campaign it would take to get you humble.
by Lumpkins, 20 June 2017 22:03
Flawed by the logic basic logic, Lumpkins hurls one final insult, and then leaves having failed to admit that he is wrong, because his reputation on a pixel art site is so important, check your FB in a min
by Jankovic123, 20 June 2017 22:08
not sure who these little kids are too.
by Jankovic123, 20 June 2017 22:12
^
Can we get back on topic?
by TheIronworks, 21 June 2017 02:40
its kind of dead... consider the topic over.
by Jankovic123, 21 June 2017 15:08
Suicu is leaving now
by TheIronworks, 22 June 2017 14:13
Um, I dont give a shit?
by Jankovic123, 22 June 2017 18:27
these robots are spamming the fuck out of these comments
by coolmankid0715, 04 July 2017 13:31
so i didn't read any of the comments but i read your description. There's literally nothing the mods can do about any of this and the admins have abandoned the site.
by Pikalink5, 09 July 2017 03:13
oh i missed a civil war.
i migrated to DA, but i think i will migrate again because of that filthy pornographic, fetishistic, political stuff and lgbt advertisements. I think migrating to piq again
by TheBraveRadish, 12 July 2017 15:01
Actually i didnt read the comments because it was too long and boring. But i hope PIQ to return perhaps with new admins
by TheBraveRadish, 12 July 2017 15:03
lgbt advertisements?
by Pikalink5, 14 July 2017 22:48
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